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		<title>By: Sheta Kaey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheta Kaey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I&#039;m sorry that Taylor hasn&#039;t been by to respond. I agree that working within groups can be more trouble than it&#039;s worth, especially considering the demands on our time in the average day. But working alone, while it lacks the immediate feedback of group working, enables us to leave the &quot;map&quot; behind and forge our own trails in the &quot;territory.&quot; Perhaps you should start a group of your own with focus on Bardon and energy working?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I&#8217;m sorry that Taylor hasn&#8217;t been by to respond. I agree that working within groups can be more trouble than it&#8217;s worth, especially considering the demands on our time in the average day. But working alone, while it lacks the immediate feedback of group working, enables us to leave the &#8220;map&#8221; behind and forge our own trails in the &#8220;territory.&#8221; Perhaps you should start a group of your own with focus on Bardon and energy working?</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.rendingtheveil.com/magic-four-letter-word/comment-page-1/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be in a wiccan coven for a number of years, with alot of ceremonial ritual.  The amount of politics and crap that goes on in covens is highly destructive and not conducive to spiritual growth, even one that has its links back to the &#039;modern forefathers&#039;. Further, attend a wiccan conference and the fluff of new age nutters who are really just trying to get laid and score some drugs comes right out. I think it is the latter that gives it a bad name, the former that makes people try it and then move on. 

Fitting magic into daily life isn&#039;t as easy as it used to be, with the pace of life making it more difficult to bring people together to practice magic and share learnings - work 10+ hour days, get to the gym, time with the kids and what&#039;s left is 1/2 hour to an hour a day. Someone needs to bring magic into the 21st century, cutting away the dross for the gems, making it accessible and meaningful rather than the clutter that exists in the main today. Showing people that the energy exists and how to work with it does not require learning 20 pages of ritual but a commitment to learn how to use it and harmonise with it.  Bardon for all his critics is the best contemporary magician of our time - at least insofar as book 1 goes - if you did half the exercises in initiation into hermetics for a year you would be a heck of a magician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be in a wiccan coven for a number of years, with alot of ceremonial ritual.  The amount of politics and crap that goes on in covens is highly destructive and not conducive to spiritual growth, even one that has its links back to the &#8216;modern forefathers&#8217;. Further, attend a wiccan conference and the fluff of new age nutters who are really just trying to get laid and score some drugs comes right out. I think it is the latter that gives it a bad name, the former that makes people try it and then move on. </p>
<p>Fitting magic into daily life isn&#8217;t as easy as it used to be, with the pace of life making it more difficult to bring people together to practice magic and share learnings &#8211; work 10+ hour days, get to the gym, time with the kids and what&#8217;s left is 1/2 hour to an hour a day. Someone needs to bring magic into the 21st century, cutting away the dross for the gems, making it accessible and meaningful rather than the clutter that exists in the main today. Showing people that the energy exists and how to work with it does not require learning 20 pages of ritual but a commitment to learn how to use it and harmonise with it.  Bardon for all his critics is the best contemporary magician of our time &#8211; at least insofar as book 1 goes &#8211; if you did half the exercises in initiation into hermetics for a year you would be a heck of a magician.</p>
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		<title>By: Rending the Veil Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.rendingtheveil.com/magic-four-letter-word/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Rending the Veil Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! I should find that and read it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! I should find that and read it. <img src='http://www.rendingtheveil.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/happy.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shin "Solo" Cynikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shin "Solo" Cynikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there!  Thanks a lot for passing along!

As for your question, I would define them as more the real far-out newagey types, or the kiddy-types that get involved in magic because it&#039;s something cool or something convenient to solve little problems--the ones that seem to get the more press, arg, if I&#039;m making any sense *g*

*chuckle* actually, this reminds me of a quote from Stephen Grasso&#039;s &#039;Learning To Open The Haunted Kaleidoscope&#039; from Generation Hex:

 &quot;The London scene was filled with what I call &#039;Doley Crowleys,&#039; funny-looking geezers in black clothes trying to start the Aeon of Horus out of a bedsit in Hackney, masturbating furiously over a series of lines drawn on a post-it note to make their unemployment benefit come through more quickly.  There were too many beardy pagan guys sitting around in pubs singing empty hymns to a nonspecific Goddess with all the passion and Gnostic rapture of a village green church choir.  &lt;b&gt;Too many socially marginalized people for whom magic and paganism seemed to function as more of a support group than anything else.  A shared comfort zone that provided a sense of empowerment and community but, for the most part, seemed to have precious little to do with magic, with the mysteries, with getting things done.&lt;/b&gt;
(Emphasis mine)

I hope that helped clear things up a bit *g*  Great job on the website btw, it looks real awesome.

&lt;i&gt;Git &#039;ir done!&lt;/i&gt;

*g*

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Shin &quot;Solo&quot; Cynikos’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dimensionbomb.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/the-relic-hound/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Relic Hound&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there!  Thanks a lot for passing along!</p>
<p>As for your question, I would define them as more the real far-out newagey types, or the kiddy-types that get involved in magic because it&#8217;s something cool or something convenient to solve little problems&#8211;the ones that seem to get the more press, arg, if I&#8217;m making any sense *g*</p>
<p>*chuckle* actually, this reminds me of a quote from Stephen Grasso&#8217;s &#8216;Learning To Open The Haunted Kaleidoscope&#8217; from Generation Hex:</p>
<p> &#8220;The London scene was filled with what I call &#8216;Doley Crowleys,&#8217; funny-looking geezers in black clothes trying to start the Aeon of Horus out of a bedsit in Hackney, masturbating furiously over a series of lines drawn on a post-it note to make their unemployment benefit come through more quickly.  There were too many beardy pagan guys sitting around in pubs singing empty hymns to a nonspecific Goddess with all the passion and Gnostic rapture of a village green church choir.  <b>Too many socially marginalized people for whom magic and paganism seemed to function as more of a support group than anything else.  A shared comfort zone that provided a sense of empowerment and community but, for the most part, seemed to have precious little to do with magic, with the mysteries, with getting things done.</b><br />
(Emphasis mine)</p>
<p>I hope that helped clear things up a bit *g*  Great job on the website btw, it looks real awesome.</p>
<p><i>Git &#8216;ir done!</i></p>
<p>*g*</p>
<p><abbr><em>Shin &#8220;Solo&#8221; Cynikos’s last blog post..<a href="http://dimensionbomb.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/the-relic-hound/" rel="nofollow">The Relic Hound</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Rending the Veil Admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting! We don&#039;t have comment notifications ironed out yet, so I&#039;ll have to inform Taylor of your comment.

So, how do you define &quot;fruitcake&quot; and &quot;fluffbunny&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting! We don&#8217;t have comment notifications ironed out yet, so I&#8217;ll have to inform Taylor of your comment.</p>
<p>So, how do you define &#8220;fruitcake&#8221; and &#8220;fluffbunny&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Shin "Solo" Cynikos</title>
		<link>http://www.rendingtheveil.com/magic-four-letter-word/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Shin "Solo" Cynikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of COURSE &#039;magic&#039; isn&#039;t a four-letter word!  It&#039;s a five-letter one! *smirk*

That said--I think &#039;willful intentionality&#039; is just plain silly.  In fact, I would define &#039;willful intentionality&#039; as magic itself!  What a good alternate definition, but isn&#039;t &#039;magic&#039; just easier to say?

I think the issue boils down also with the vast amount of fruitcakes and fluffbunnies who use the word.  It&#039;s as if people don&#039;t want to be associated with it anymore--but that certainly won&#039;t stop people like myself, who live and breathe magic into everyday life, and not just when the fancy strikes me, or just during some ritual.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Shin &quot;Solo&quot; Cynikos’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dimensionbomb.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/the-relic-hound/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Relic Hound&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of COURSE &#8216;magic&#8217; isn&#8217;t a four-letter word!  It&#8217;s a five-letter one! *smirk*</p>
<p>That said&#8211;I think &#8216;willful intentionality&#8217; is just plain silly.  In fact, I would define &#8216;willful intentionality&#8217; as magic itself!  What a good alternate definition, but isn&#8217;t &#8216;magic&#8217; just easier to say?</p>
<p>I think the issue boils down also with the vast amount of fruitcakes and fluffbunnies who use the word.  It&#8217;s as if people don&#8217;t want to be associated with it anymore&#8211;but that certainly won&#8217;t stop people like myself, who live and breathe magic into everyday life, and not just when the fancy strikes me, or just during some ritual.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Shin &#8220;Solo&#8221; Cynikos’s last blog post..<a href="http://dimensionbomb.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/the-relic-hound/" rel="nofollow">The Relic Hound</a></em></abbr></p>
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